This interview was done by David Alfonso Castro, my son, with my mom, Fely Bation in Cebu, Philippines. The recording was supposedly for StoryCorps but reviving it here on the podcast as one of our Wicked Thoughts special episodes. We interviewed her days before the pandemic quarantine and travel lockdown. This was when we realized that her trip back to Los Angeles was not going to happen anymore. She had to stay in our tiny unit in Cebu City, Philippines together with my aunt for three months after this interview.